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Re: Just curious regarding dun expressions

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BlackOak2 wrote:
Nazarach wrote:
thats right ^^' i was blaming it on the sire as he has smoky black pearl as coloring, but looking at his offspring there seem to be more bucks and cream dillutions - not necessarily cr/prl - guess he rather smoky cream than smoky black pearl :/
Both of his parents are buckskins.
It's a difficult gene to keep and breed, but makes gorgeously colored horses.
If you want to breed into or breed for a new line of pearls, only the NAB in the Adoption Center carry the gene (if you want to start from scratch). To raise your chances of getting pearl carriers, look for the ones that already look like double creams, and perhaps that seem that their color is 'just off', like 'just a little too light'.
If you don't want to start from scratch, there are a few out there already that are double pearl for stud or sale. If you need a bit more help, I can certainly look some up for you (for stud or sale).

Good Luck!
Many thanks :D There are a few really beautyfull horses, but for now i'll just go for slowly raising stats and blacks for my abyssinians; as i'm still fairly new and genetics (if a tad frustrating at times) is a favourite pasttime of mine I just want to guess and look what comes out ;)
But I'll remember if I get bored with plain blacks and dwelfe into pearls ^^

Good Luck to you too :3
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Re: Just curious regarding dun expressions

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So, another ^^
I just got a couple Black Duns / grullas - and now there is one lady that has cream as well
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is the color called smoky grulla or smoky black dun?
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Re: Just curious regarding dun expressions

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Nazarach wrote:So, another ^^
I just got a couple Black Duns / grullas - and now there is one lady that has cream as well

is the color called smoky grulla or smoky black dun?
Black Dun and grulla are synonymous, meaning they mean the same thing. Grulla (the female form) and grullo (the male form) are spanish words that I suppose the bulk of the horse community adopted to describe black dun (I could be wrong about where or how it was adopted, after all, I didn't look up the 'history of the word grulla').

I end up calling them smoky grullo (or smoky grulla, I don't differentiate between male and female forms, so I generally use grullo).

Or you could simply call them black dun, to help remind you that the horse has the dun gene. There are some color names that I do that to, just to help keep track of them.
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Re: Just curious regarding dun expressions

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BlackOak2 wrote: Black Dun and grulla are synonymous, meaning they mean the same thing. Grulla (the female form) and grullo (the male form) are spanish words that I suppose the bulk of the horse community adopted to describe black dun (I could be wrong about where or how it was adopted, after all, I didn't look up the 'history of the word grulla').

I end up calling them smoky grullo (or smoky grulla, I don't differentiate between male and female forms, so I generally use grullo).

Or you could simply call them black dun, to help remind you that the horse has the dun gene. There are some color names that I do that to, just to help keep track of them.
Yeah, my spanish was enough for that so I can't help but be concious of the gender-ending so I just wanted to know... well, the search filter for color is not able to recognise grulla/o as a form of black, so I guess naming the "official" color Black dun would be more useful ^^'

ok, thanks for your recommendations / giving your point of view :D
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Re: Just curious regarding dun expressions

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Nazarach wrote:
Yeah, my spanish was enough for that so I can't help but be concious of the gender-ending so I just wanted to know... well, the search filter for color is not able to recognise grulla/o as a form of black, so I guess naming the "official" color Black dun would be more useful ^^'

ok, thanks for your recommendations / giving your point of view :D
Anytime! That's what the community is here for. 8-)
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Re: Just curious regarding dun expressions

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Just curious as I noticed something that I think is rather unusual
Duns often have those lightened feetlocks - but these lighter areas convening in stripes I haven't seen before... I think it's cute ^^ What do you think?

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Re: Just curious regarding dun expressions

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Nazarach wrote:Just curious as I noticed something that I think is rather unusual
Duns often have those lightened feetlocks - but these lighter areas convening in stripes I haven't seen before... I think it's cute ^^ What do you think?

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The stripes are called zebra stripes and they are often, but not always, an indicator of dun :)
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Re: Just curious regarding dun expressions

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meganamber2 wrote:
Nazarach wrote:Just curious as I noticed something that I think is rather unusual
Duns often have those lightened feetlocks - but these lighter areas convening in stripes I haven't seen before... I think it's cute ^^ What do you think?

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The stripes are called zebra stripes and they are often, but not always, an indicator of dun :)
they are often called zippers
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Re: Just curious regarding dun expressions

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BlackOak2 wrote:
Nazarach wrote:So, another ^^
I just got a couple Black Duns / grullas - and now there is one lady that has cream as well

is the color called smoky grulla or smoky black dun?
Black Dun and grulla are synonymous, meaning they mean the same thing. Grulla (the female form) and grullo (the male form) are spanish words that I suppose the bulk of the horse community adopted to describe black dun (I could be wrong about where or how it was adopted, after all, I didn't look up the 'history of the word grulla').

I end up calling them smoky grullo (or smoky grulla, I don't differentiate between male and female forms, so I generally use grullo).

Or you could simply call them black dun, to help remind you that the horse has the dun gene. There are some color names that I do that to, just to help keep track of them.
As far as I'm aware, you'll hear the distinction around the Mexican border area most, the term Grulla refers to a crane of similar color. I hear the distinctions mostly from the older mexicans in Texas, it has been adopted within the southren US as the Mexican vaquero infuenced the American Cowboy greatly.

Up north, it is called Black Dun...
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