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∰ The Whyle
Post by Bitapetrone »
The Whyle's primary focus is on breeding exceptional competition horses. Below I've summed up my current standing in each discipline as far as record scores are concerned:
Below, my current projects are showcased in greater detail.
Featured horse: Bi-Han
Horses should give an overall impression of balance and agility. They should be lithe and quick about it.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Sturdy, square frame with powerful hindquarters
— Old Iberian or “D” hip
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, medium-length head
— Strong, thick legs
— Balanced to uphill build
— Deep flank
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Working Ranch
— Secondary: Cutting and Reining
High Scores Held:
— Working Ranch
— Cutting
— Reining
Featured horse: Makavelo
Horses should give an overall impression of fluidity of motion. Note that this type is still a heavy work in progress, and many of my standards are undecided or not met.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Sturdy frame with a smooth transition from neck to back
— Stifle placed slightly behind point of hip
— Slightly sloping croup
— Sloped shoulder with good range of motion
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, medium to long length head
— Strong, thick legs
— Uphill build
— Deep flank
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Dressage
— Secondary: Driving Dressage
High Scores Held:
— Dressage
— Driving Dressage
Featured horse: Sideralis
High spirited horses with exceptional balance and action. This project is still a WIP.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Lithe frame
— Slightly sloping croup
— Stifle should be slightly behind point of hip
— Medium to long length back
— Convex to straight, medium to long length head
— Strong, thick legs
— Balanced to uphill build
— Deep flank
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Saddleseat
— Secondary: --
High Scores Held:
— Saddleseat
Featured horse: Daedalus
Lean runners showcasing excellent speed and tenacity. This project is labeled as "Darley" in honor of one of the foundation horses used to create the Thoroughbred.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Lean frame
— Downhill build
— Long sloping hip with a forward stifle
— Medium to long length back
— Straight to slightly concave medium to long head
— Slender, sturdy legs
— Balanced to uphill build
— Deep rib cage leading into a lean flank.
— Ideally 15h-18h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Racing
— Secondary: Sprint Racing, Harness Racing
High Scores Held:
— Racing
— Sprint Racing
— Harness Racing
Featured horse: Jager
This project is still in development and not all conformation/aesthetic goals have been met. Tentatively this project is called "Godolphin" after the Arabian-type stallion.
Horses should have excellent endurance and a quick step. Short, strong backs with a deep heart girth and downhill build are ideal.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Sturdy, square frame with powerful hindquarters
— Short to short-medium length back
— Long semi-convex to straight head
— Thin but sturdy legs
— Downhill build
— Deep heart girth and flank
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Endurance
High Scores Held:
— Endurance
Featured horse: Rambler
Agile horses built for quick turns of speed.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Powerful, sloped shoulder with a deep tie in
— Powerful hindquarters
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, short to medium-length head
— Strong but lean legs
— Slightly downhill build
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Barrel Racing
— Secondary: ---
High Scores Held:
— Barrel Racing
Featured horse: Agambir
Us Galobars are natural sprinters. Very dangerous over short distances.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Powerful, sloped shoulder with a deep tie in
— Mediumish Pony-Type build
— Powerful hindquarters
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, short to medium-length head
— Strong but lean legs
— Downhill build
— Ideally 14h-17h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Sprint Racing
— Secondary: ---
High Scores Held:
— Sprint Racing
Competition | Project | Record Held | Whyle High Score | Horse |
Barrel Racing | Khosrow (WIP) | Yes | 21.46 | Rambler |
Cross Country | Destrier | No | 27.6 | Tabor |
Cutting | Destrier | Yes | 14.31 | Bi-Han |
Dressage | Palfrey | Yes | 51.07 | Makavelo |
Driven Dressage | Palfrey | Yes | 55.49 | Mirati |
Endurance | Godolphin | Yes | 18.87 | Jager |
Harness Racing | Darley | Yes | 2:36.33 | Graupel |
Hunter | --- | --- | --- | --- |
In-Hand Jumping | --- | --- | --- | --- |
Log Pull | Rouncey: Sector I | Yes | 64.7 | Abihail |
Marathon Driving | Rouncey: Sector III | --- | --- | --- |
Obstacle Driving | Rouncey: Sector II | Yes | 58.55 | Kintaro |
Pole Bending | Galobar | Yes | 27:41 | 934416 |
Racing | Darley | Yes | 1:59.77 | Daedalus |
Reining | Destrier | Yes | 55.37 | Casaro |
Saddleseat | Shales | Yes | 65.27 | Sideralis |
Show Jumping | --- | --- | --- | --- |
Sprint Racing | Galobar | Yes | 40.17 | Agambir |
Steeplechasing | --- | --- | --- | --- |
Western Pleasure | --- | --- | --- | --- |
Western Trail | Destrier | No | 59.85 | 594497 |
Working Ranch | Destrier | Yes | 64.68 | Boon |
Destrier
Featured horse: Bi-Han
Horses should give an overall impression of balance and agility. They should be lithe and quick about it.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Sturdy, square frame with powerful hindquarters
— Old Iberian or “D” hip
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, medium-length head
— Strong, thick legs
— Balanced to uphill build
— Deep flank
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Working Ranch
— Secondary: Cutting and Reining
High Scores Held:
— Working Ranch
— Cutting
— Reining
Palfrey
Featured horse: Makavelo
Horses should give an overall impression of fluidity of motion. Note that this type is still a heavy work in progress, and many of my standards are undecided or not met.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Sturdy frame with a smooth transition from neck to back
— Stifle placed slightly behind point of hip
— Slightly sloping croup
— Sloped shoulder with good range of motion
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, medium to long length head
— Strong, thick legs
— Uphill build
— Deep flank
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Dressage
— Secondary: Driving Dressage
High Scores Held:
— Dressage
— Driving Dressage
Shales
Featured horse: Sideralis
High spirited horses with exceptional balance and action. This project is still a WIP.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Lithe frame
— Slightly sloping croup
— Stifle should be slightly behind point of hip
— Medium to long length back
— Convex to straight, medium to long length head
— Strong, thick legs
— Balanced to uphill build
— Deep flank
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Saddleseat
— Secondary: --
High Scores Held:
— Saddleseat
Darley
Featured horse: Daedalus
Lean runners showcasing excellent speed and tenacity. This project is labeled as "Darley" in honor of one of the foundation horses used to create the Thoroughbred.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Lean frame
— Downhill build
— Long sloping hip with a forward stifle
— Medium to long length back
— Straight to slightly concave medium to long head
— Slender, sturdy legs
— Balanced to uphill build
— Deep rib cage leading into a lean flank.
— Ideally 15h-18h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Racing
— Secondary: Sprint Racing, Harness Racing
High Scores Held:
— Racing
— Sprint Racing
— Harness Racing
Godolphin
Featured horse: Jager
This project is still in development and not all conformation/aesthetic goals have been met. Tentatively this project is called "Godolphin" after the Arabian-type stallion.
Horses should have excellent endurance and a quick step. Short, strong backs with a deep heart girth and downhill build are ideal.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Sturdy, square frame with powerful hindquarters
— Short to short-medium length back
— Long semi-convex to straight head
— Thin but sturdy legs
— Downhill build
— Deep heart girth and flank
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Endurance
High Scores Held:
— Endurance
Khosrow
Featured horse: Rambler
Agile horses built for quick turns of speed.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Powerful, sloped shoulder with a deep tie in
— Powerful hindquarters
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, short to medium-length head
— Strong but lean legs
— Slightly downhill build
— Ideally 13h-16h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Barrel Racing
— Secondary: ---
High Scores Held:
— Barrel Racing
Galobar
Featured horse: Agambir
Us Galobars are natural sprinters. Very dangerous over short distances.
Aesthetic:
— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”
Conformation:
— Powerful, sloped shoulder with a deep tie in
— Mediumish Pony-Type build
— Powerful hindquarters
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, short to medium-length head
— Strong but lean legs
— Downhill build
— Ideally 14h-17h
Discipline(s):
— Primary: Sprint Racing
— Secondary: ---
High Scores Held:
— Sprint Racing
Last edited by Bitapetrone on Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:44 pm, edited 34 times in total.
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Re: ∰ The Whyle
Post by Farant »
Hello!
Toldar is amazing! His COI is also great.
Let me ask you, do you only train stallions?
Toldar is amazing! His COI is also great.
Let me ask you, do you only train stallions?
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Post by Bitapetrone »
Shanks! Right now I only really train the stallions unless I get a mare that looks particularly amazing. In the future the mares will be trained as well, but until I get the conformation that I seek more set in I'm only training the stallions to save a bit of time.Farant wrote:Hello!
Toldar is amazing! His COI is also great.
Let me ask you, do you only train stallions?
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Post by Farant »
How long did it take to get that type of horse, completely black and shiny? I didn't see even bay horses in your farm, they're pretty common.Bitapetrone wrote:Shanks! Right now I only really train the stallions unless I get a mare that looks particularly amazing. In the future the mares will be trained as well, but until I get the conformation that I seek more set in I'm only training the stallions to save a bit of time.Farant wrote:Hello!
Toldar is amazing! His COI is also great.
Let me ask you, do you only train stallions?
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It took a long time. I started with bays and black horses and tried to cement the black color in. Then I eventually added the Turkmene blood to get the shiny coat. It was difficult to keep the conformation and the other "aesthetic" bits I wanted at the same time. The upright mane and the short/medium tails were fun to keep going Lol.Farant wrote:How long did it take to get that type of horse, completely black and shiny? I didn't see even bay horses in your farm, they're pretty common.
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So you disqualified every bay horse after some time from start, I guess? And Turkmene must add light type to your herd, did you use inbreeding with horses from previous generation (before Turkmene) to return medium build?Bitapetrone wrote:It took a long time. I started with bays and black horses and tried to cement the black color in. Then I eventually added the Turkmene blood to get the shiny coat. It was difficult to keep the conformation and the other "aesthetic" bits I wanted at the same time. The upright mane and the short/medium tails were fun to keep going Lol.
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Essentially, yes. I phased out the colors I didn't want (used to have a ton of bays/chestnuts and cream dilutes on black). In preparation for adding the Turkmene blood, I focused on traits that would help to counter the effect of adding them: heavier horses/uphill builds/sloping quarters, etc. By the time I added them in, it wasn't too rough to get back to the middle ground I wanted. I spent a lot of time planning out how best to get around their light builds. I still get extremely light horses sometimes with the foxy Turkmene faces.Farant wrote:So you disqualified every bay horse after some time from start, I guess? And Turkmene must add light type to your herd, did you use inbreeding with horses from previous generation (before Turkmene) to return medium build?
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Well, I'm struggling now with too much light-type blood in my herd. That's why I'm so curious. But if even you get light horses after dozens of medium, I should prepare to work hard.Bitapetrone wrote:Essentially, yes. I phased out the colors I didn't want (used to have a ton of bays/chestnuts and cream dilutes on black). In preparation for adding the Turkmene blood, I focused on traits that would help to counter the effect of adding them: heavier horses/uphill builds/sloping quarters, etc. By the time I added them in, it wasn't too rough to get back to the middle ground I wanted. I spent a lot of time planning out how best to get around their light builds. I still get extremely light horses sometimes with the foxy Turkmene faces.Farant wrote:So you disqualified every bay horse after some time from start, I guess? And Turkmene must add light type to your herd, did you use inbreeding with horses from previous generation (before Turkmene) to return medium build?
How high was HGP when you added the Turkmene?
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I'm assuming HGP is the genetic potential? Mine wasn't very high, but I only pay attention to intelligence, agility, balance and strength on the breeder report since I focus exclusively on Working Ranch. I never even look at the genetic potential. I do heavily scrutinize their conformation though. I had to keep quite a few heavier horses in my program to get mine back to where I wanted. I would breed several mares to a draft horse that I liked, then keep those foals and slowly infuse that cross back into my herd so I could beef them up without killing too much of the conformation I wanted to keep. I had to do a lot of this, as I found it difficult to add new things without harming the things I wanted to keep too much.Farant wrote:Well, I'm struggling now with too much light-type blood in my herd. That's why I'm so curious. But if even you get light horses after dozens of medium, I should prepare to work hard.
How high was HGP when you added the Turkmene?
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Yes! I noticed that better reports are from horses with better HGP. I'm getting heavy and very light horses from my mares very often, and it's a fun to choose who should be in my breeding herd.Bitapetrone wrote:I'm assuming HGP is the genetic potential? Mine wasn't very high, but I only pay attention to intelligence, agility, balance and strength on the breeder report since I focus exclusively on Working Ranch. I never even look at the genetic potential. I do heavily scrutinize their conformation though. I had to keep quite a few heavier horses in my program to get mine back to where I wanted. I would breed several mares to a draft horse that I liked, then keep those foals and slowly infuse that cross back into my herd so I could beef them up without killing too much of the conformation I wanted to keep. I had to do a lot of this, as I found it difficult to add new things without harming the things I wanted to keep too much.
BTW, I used one of your stallions, thank you for that.
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