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The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:39 pm
by Gaagii
Welcome to the "Plume" Horse Association.
If you're wondering what a "plume" horse is, it's not a breed itself but rather a particular marking found that is currently called plume. You can find an ongoing color discussion about it here. The 'plume' appears to influence:

mane Image
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fetlocks Image
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including feathers Image
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and to lesser degree tail Image

By adding a 'silvered' coloration.

It has been found in the following:
Bay with/without pangare, dun/zebra markings, metallic, or sooty,
Dilute (bay),
Roan (bay),
Varnish/leopard (bay)
&
Produces a sort of 'flaxen chestnut' (seemingly unrelated to actual chestnut).


Colors/Markings of question:
Black
Actual Chestnut
Brown
Intense Varnish/Leopard
Appaloosa Bronzing
Intense Sooty



Anyway
The PHA
The PHA is designed to help with further breeding of this coloration. I will be offering this 'plume' coloration to the public (around the end of June) so if interested please let me know.

The only 'request' is that if you breed to and/or purchase some 'plume' horses is some help with logging how this color works > either posting horses here or here

Thanks

Re: The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:59 pm
by BlackOak2
Sticking my vote for a purchase of both a mare and a stud when public sales open.

Age indeterminate (doesn't matter, old or young).
Color indeterminate with one exception (not chestnut).
Prefer all expressed points (mane, tail, feathers).

My competition line has a couple champagnes and creams as well as a little tobiano spread out in it, so they should offer some additional pictures in the future. As well as other genes (dun, pangare...etc..).

Re: The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:49 am
by Gaagii
BlackOak2 wrote:Sticking my vote for a purchase of both a mare and a stud when public sales open.

Age indeterminate (doesn't matter, old or young).
Color indeterminate with one exception (not chestnut).
Prefer all expressed points (mane, tail, feathers).

My competition line has a couple champagnes and creams as well as a little tobiano spread out in it, so they should offer some additional pictures in the future. As well as other genes (dun, pangare...etc..).
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1995890 & http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1989423

Re: The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:54 pm
by BlackOak2
Gaagii wrote:
BlackOak2 wrote:Sticking my vote for a purchase of both a mare and a stud when public sales open.

Age indeterminate (doesn't matter, old or young).
Color indeterminate with one exception (not chestnut).
Prefer all expressed points (mane, tail, feathers).

My competition line has a couple champagnes and creams as well as a little tobiano spread out in it, so they should offer some additional pictures in the future. As well as other genes (dun, pangare...etc..).
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1995890 & http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1989423
Much gratitude!
Looking forward to adding these into the competition lines and designing that roman-harness horse look.

Re: The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:28 am
by Gaagii
BlackOak2 wrote:
Much gratitude!
Looking forward to adding these into the competition lines and designing that roman-harness horse look.
Yep you're welcome.

Re: The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:32 pm
by BlackOak2
Gaagii wrote:...
Decent breed-out from the mare I purchased. The first foal from the stud, however, didn't pass any plume coloration on (plus a failure in some other areas).

The mare's first child as a newborn:
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As a yearling:
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Came from a flat bay stud with little (in my opinion no) plume carriage at all.


Re: The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:45 pm
by BlackOak2
Gaagii wrote:...
Don't know if this is something or not, but this colt didn't show any visible plume... however, now that he's growing up... is it just me, or is his mane and tail quite a bit more red then it should be? Usually bays, or even wild bays, which he is, have black manes and tails... Or am I forgetting something about wild bays?




Is this a possible expression of plume?

Re: The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:05 am
by Gaagii
BlackOak2 wrote:
Gaagii wrote:...
Don't know if this is something or not, but this colt didn't show any visible plume... however, now that he's growing up... is it just me, or is his mane and tail quite a bit more red then it should be? Usually bays, or even wild bays, which he is, have black manes and tails... Or am I forgetting something about wild bays?




Is this a possible expression of plume?
If it is, I haven't seen it before.

Re: The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:34 am
by Stick
I'm interested! I'm not a very fast player when it comes to moving through turns, and I'm majorly focusing on other breeding projects over everything else, but I've always been interested in playing more with this gene.

I'd be happy to pick up any strong plumes when they're available, but I'm especially interested in horses that look like this gal that BlackOak2 pointed out to me the other day: http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2018731
Is that confirmed plume on chestnut? It looks amazing.

Also, if there will be a place for us to share our own plume studs, I just had a boy grow up and is ready for breeding. Let me know if sharing his link here would be acceptable or not.

And thanks for starting this group! I'm excited to see where it goes. :D

Re: The 'Plume' Horse Association

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:25 pm
by BlackOak2
Champagne affected by pangare.
Not sure if what I see is a very weak expression of plume, or not. But still worth pinning here for another reference.

Foal image:
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Yearling Image:
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Horse Now: