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Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby deanimator » February 12th, 2018, 4:22 pm

⛎♑️ Heart's on Fire


I was first thinking a chestnut base but I have no idea what's causing the brighter fetlocks/man except maybe a really heavy sooty. But his face has me thinking he may actually be a bay base and...I don't have any ideas past that except I think it's lovely and I want to reproduce it infinitely.

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Re: Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby Andraste » February 12th, 2018, 5:32 pm

I'm not very confident about this, but it looks like a flaxen liver chestnut with sooty?

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Re: Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby DragonHorse!!!! » February 12th, 2018, 7:14 pm

Andraste wrote:I'm not very confident about this, but it looks like a flaxen liver chestnut with sooty?

I agree. I found a picture when I looked that p that looks some-what like the horse!!
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Re: Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby Baranduin Brewster » February 12th, 2018, 8:09 pm

deanimator wrote:⛎♑️ Heart's on Fire


I was first thinking a chestnut base but I have no idea what's causing the brighter fetlocks/man except maybe a really heavy sooty. But his face has me thinking he may actually be a bay base and...I don't have any ideas past that except I think it's lovely and I want to reproduce it infinitely.


I would agree with Flaxen Chestnut, lovely rendition of it too. I'm not seeing bay.

Was the mane/tail that color at 1 year of age or did it gradually take on the red color?
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Re: Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby Nazarach » February 13th, 2018, 8:16 am

Baranduin Brewster wrote:
deanimator wrote:⛎♑️ Heart's on Fire


I was first thinking a chestnut base but I have no idea what's causing the brighter fetlocks/man except maybe a really heavy sooty. But his face has me thinking he may actually be a bay base and...I don't have any ideas past that except I think it's lovely and I want to reproduce it infinitely.


I would agree with Flaxen Chestnut, lovely rendition of it too. I'm not seeing bay.

Was the mane/tail that color at 1 year of age or did it gradually take on the red color?


I've seen someone descibe a really similiar horse as red dun with flaxen and sooty (last one caused the dark red), can't remember where or i would have quoted, sorry :/

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Re: Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby Baranduin Brewster » February 13th, 2018, 10:28 am

Nazarach wrote:
Baranduin Brewster wrote:
deanimator wrote:⛎♑️ Heart's on Fire


I was first thinking a chestnut base but I have no idea what's causing the brighter fetlocks/man except maybe a really heavy sooty. But his face has me thinking he may actually be a bay base and...I don't have any ideas past that except I think it's lovely and I want to reproduce it infinitely.


I would agree with Flaxen Chestnut, lovely rendition of it too. I'm not seeing bay.

Was the mane/tail that color at 1 year of age or did it gradually take on the red color?


I've seen someone descibe a really similiar horse as red dun with flaxen and sooty (last one caused the dark red), can't remember where or i would have quoted, sorry :/


I saw the same horse, but a dun would have a lighter body and line back. I'm not seeing that with this horse

This is the horse your referring too

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Re: Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby Nazarach » February 13th, 2018, 11:05 am

Baranduin Brewster wrote:
I saw the same horse, but a dun would have a lighter body and line back. I'm not seeing that with this horse

This is the horse your referring too

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=11583#p62643


right, there it was ^^' ok, when comparing them it's kind of obvious... sorry :(
but disregarding dun, flaxen (light mane) with sooty (darker body than normal) would make sense though - I just thought dun would be probable because it could cause the lightened near the feathering by the feet as the normal chestnut color is spared by the dun or incorporated? (I can just find one of mine as a somewhat example
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near his feetlocks, where the feathers are in Hearts case, the dun seems to fade and the normal coat-color shines through ... or it could be solely caused by the feathers :? what do you think?

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Re: Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby Baranduin Brewster » February 13th, 2018, 2:03 pm

Nazarach wrote:
Baranduin Brewster wrote:
I saw the same horse, but a dun would have a lighter body and line back. I'm not seeing that with this horse

This is the horse your referring too

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=11583#p62643


right, there it was ^^' ok, when comparing them it's kind of obvious... sorry :(
but disregarding dun, flaxen (light mane) with sooty (darker body than normal) would make sense though - I just thought dun would be probable because it could cause the lightened near the feathering by the feet as the normal chestnut color is spared by the dun or incorporated? (I can just find one of mine as a somewhat example
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near his feetlocks, where the feathers are in Hearts case, the dun seems to fade and the normal coat-color shines through ... or it could be solely caused by the feathers :? what do you think?


The lightened area by his feet is just the flaxen showing through, not the Zipper marks displayed by the Dun genes

Here it is on a couple of other horses

http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123525
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1112027

Here expressed very lightly on chestnut

http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1133635
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Re: Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby deanimator » February 13th, 2018, 7:48 pm

Was the mane/tail that color at 1 year of age or did it gradually take on the red color?


I honestly couldn't tell you I tend to not check my feathered Arabs till around 3 since otherwise I'll end up sitting there spending turns waiting for feather signs to show up. :D

Flaxen chestnut with some heavy sooty makes sense.

Funnily enough both parents are black, which would make them both E/e, one with LP and possibly getting the silver on that side too.

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Re: Okay this one has me stumped!

Postby Baranduin Brewster » February 14th, 2018, 2:03 am

deanimator wrote:
Was the mane/tail that color at 1 year of age or did it gradually take on the red color?


I honestly couldn't tell you I tend to not check my feathered Arabs till around 3 since otherwise I'll end up sitting there spending turns waiting for feather signs to show up. :D

Flaxen chestnut with some heavy sooty makes sense.

Funnily enough both parents are black, which would make them both E/e, one with LP and possibly getting the silver on that side too.


Both parents have chestnut in their history, and if you look at his sire...without a foal picture it is difficult to verify if he is just a bronzing black or if he was just a very dark chestnut
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