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I bred this guy and I couldn't figure him out, Still trying to figure out "pearl/cream" genes even if thats what he is, Also does anyone else see a blaze hidden on him or are my eyes messing with me. :lol:
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kasey1732 wrote:I bred this guy and I couldn't figure him out, Still trying to figure out "pearl/cream" genes even if thats what he is, Also does anyone else see a blaze hidden on him or are my eyes messing with me. :lol:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3552957
looks like hes got a blazes color is definitely confusing or it might be a calf face marking
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3553953 this guy has a blaze so im puzzled to
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kasey1732 wrote:I bred this guy and I couldn't figure him out, Still trying to figure out "pearl/cream" genes even if thats what he is, Also does anyone else see a blaze hidden on him or are my eyes messing with me. :lol:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3552957

Hi! I have lots of horses just like him! https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3504820
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3540568
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3508950
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3475353

He is a Double cream on a silver and black base, with Tobiano, feathers, and face marking.
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bestleopardbreeders wrote:
kasey1732 wrote:I bred this guy and I couldn't figure him out, Still trying to figure out "pearl/cream" genes even if thats what he is, Also does anyone else see a blaze hidden on him or are my eyes messing with me. :lol:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3552957

Hi! I have lots of horses just like him! https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3504820
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3540568
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3508950
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3475353

He is a Double cream on a silver and black base, with Tobiano, feathers, and face marking.
All your horses a pretty much Perlino tobiano because their mane and tail are goldish color and the coat is like palomino but because has a pink nose can be only perlino
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kasey1732 wrote:I bred this guy and I couldn't figure him out, Still trying to figure out "pearl/cream" genes even if thats what he is, Also does anyone else see a blaze hidden on him or are my eyes messing with me. :lol:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3552957
It is safe to say that it's a double cream on a bay/wild bay base; Perlino. Tobiano and Tiger Eye. It is also Pangare, which is causing it to look lighter in areas like its barrel and legs. [A/-, Cr/Cr, P/-, t/t, TO/-]
However, although it is certainly a cream/pearl on a bay, I believe it may not be a Perlino but a Buckskin Pearl. Buckskin Pearls‒x1 cream, x1 pearl‒appear brighter in color than a normal double cream would. Yours does not appear as dark as a Perlino; this could be a result of the Pangare. But Pangare typically doesn't affect the mane and tail, and yours has a lighter tail than a Perlino: hence, my guess, a cream-pearl on bay. I'm sure that by exploring the parents' genotypes and phenotypes I could probably back it, but I hadn't done so. The makeup for this postulation would be A/-, Cr/prl, TO/-, P/-, t/t.
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Double pearl. On chestnut.
You have yourself an apricot.

Rolo, the sire, is a black pearl and the dame (the chestnut) cannot hide a cream, so must be hiding a pearl gene.

Which also means, Rolo's parents must also be at least pearl carriers.

Funny how these pearls suddenly pop up. 8-)
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Heartland2001 wrote:
kasey1732 wrote:I bred this guy and I couldn't figure him out, Still trying to figure out "pearl/cream" genes even if thats what he is, Also does anyone else see a blaze hidden on him or are my eyes messing with me. :lol:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3552957
looks like hes got a blazes color is definitely confusing or it might be a calf face marking
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3553953 this guy has a blaze so im puzzled to
Yea! Yours has a good way of hiding it! I wonder what causes that.
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BlackOak2 wrote::D
Double pearl. On chestnut.
You have yourself an apricot.

Rolo, the sire, is a black pearl and the dame (the chestnut) cannot hide a cream, so must be hiding a pearl gene.

Which also means, Rolo's parents must also be at least pearl carriers.

Funny how these pearls suddenly pop up. 8-)
Thank you!, and to everyone who had replys^ I was also thinking double but got stumbled.
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kasey1732 wrote:
Heartland2001 wrote: looks like hes got a blazes color is definitely confusing or it might be a calf face marking
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3553953 this guy has a blaze so im puzzled to
Yea! Yours has a good way of hiding it! I wonder what causes that.
i dont know :lol:
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Heartland2001 wrote:
kasey1732 wrote: Yea! Yours has a good way of hiding it! I wonder what causes that.
i dont know :lol:
Here's a quick rundown of hints to look for, when looking for, or dealing with pearl.

--> A single cream (palomino, smoky black or brown & buckskin) CANNOT be carrying a pearl gene.
--> If the horse is not champagne and the eyes are not clearly dark, the horse is either a double cream or a cream & pearl.
--> Pearl is recessive, meaning that the bloodline will show 'plain' looking horses then suddenly a double dilute and then again plain looking horses (when bred to other plain looking horses). So the pedigree will look rather normal, as like this horse's pedigree: https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2308442 (there's also some brilliantly strong duns there too).
--> Pearl can be easily mistaken for double cream, with the same pink skin, except pearl offers darker manes (then double cream) and has dark eyes (with the exception of the tiger eye gene).
--> A double pearl can never come from a single cream, regardless of the color.
--> Two solid-colored horses can produce a double dilute pearl foal.
--> One solid-colored horse and a double dilute can produce a double dilute pearl (which means each parent carries a single pearl gene (the double dilute then is a cream & pearl or a double pearl).
--> Two double dilutes can produce a double dilute pearl (which means both parents are a cream & pearl or also double pearl).

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