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Champagne or white?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:24 pm
by horsegirl008~2
I'm so bad at coloring, even the most basic colors :roll: Is this girl champagne or white? I'm assuming champagne because of the freckles on her nose, but she's super super light-colored. (Click on the image to see her as an older horse...she's almost 2 and idk why it put that picture of her as a baby)



Re: Champagne or white?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:50 pm
by Nazarach
horsegirl008~2 wrote:I'm so bad at coloring, even the most basic colors :roll: Is this girl champagne or white? I'm assuming champagne because of the freckles on her nose, but she's super super light-colored. (Click on the image to see her as an older horse...she's almost 2 and idk why it put that picture of her as a baby)


Hi there :) these ones are always tricky - she is indeed champagne - with a black base, champagne from sire and/or dam, cream from the sire and the dam (the dam was a varnished silver amber cream if I had to peg her down) - pretty sure she carries 2x cream as the freckles are rather pale; also, as both parents had Lp I'd say she expresses (at least) the varnish as she is paler than normal SCCs...
So, all in all I'd say Varnished Smoky Cream Champagne or Smoky Cream Champagne w/ Lp
gen code is something along:
E_ a/a Ch_ Cr/Cr Lp_

Re: Champagne or white?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:53 pm
by horsegirl008~2
Nazarach wrote:
horsegirl008~2 wrote:I'm so bad at coloring, even the most basic colors :roll: Is this girl champagne or white? I'm assuming champagne because of the freckles on her nose, but she's super super light-colored. (Click on the image to see her as an older horse...she's almost 2 and idk why it put that picture of her as a baby)


Hi there :) these ones are always tricky - she is indeed champagne - with a black base, champagne from sire and/or dam, cream from the sire and the dam (the dam was a varnished silver amber cream if I had to peg her down) - pretty sure she carries 2x cream as the freckles are rather pale; also, as both parents had Lp I'd say she expresses (at least) the varnish as she is paler than normal SCCs...
So, all in all I'd say Varnished Smoky Cream Champagne or Smoky Cream Champagne w/ Lp
gen code is something along:
E_ a/a Ch_ Cr/Cr Lp_
Sounds super, thanks!! :D

Re: Champagne or white?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:43 am
by Cypress Creek Elites
horsegirl008~2 wrote:I'm so bad at coloring, even the most basic colors :roll: Is this girl champagne or white? I'm assuming champagne because of the freckles on her nose, but she's super super light-colored. (Click on the image to see her as an older horse...she's almost 2 and idk why it put that picture of her as a baby)


I'd like to add as well that we don't have "white". While you can get tobiano to cover the whole horse, I wouldn't say that that counts (and I think that the skin generally remains dark for that), and we have "pseudo-white" (which is a triple dilute involving cream and champagne), there is no actual "white" gene.

Re: Champagne or white?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:35 pm
by horsegirl008~2
Cypress Creek Elites wrote:
horsegirl008~2 wrote:I'm so bad at coloring, even the most basic colors :roll: Is this girl champagne or white? I'm assuming champagne because of the freckles on her nose, but she's super super light-colored. (Click on the image to see her as an older horse...she's almost 2 and idk why it put that picture of her as a baby)


I'd like to add as well that we don't have "white". While you can get tobiano to cover the whole horse, I wouldn't say that that counts (and I think that the skin generally remains dark for that), and we have "pseudo-white" (which is a triple dilute involving cream and champagne), there is no actual "white" gene.
Good to know, thanks! :D