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Racehorse Breeding Help
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Racehorse Breeding Help
Heart
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BlackOak2 wrote:Heart is the will to win. Sometimes you have a great horse with great stats and in locals he (or she) does exceptionally with times. But the moment you put them in player-made comps, suddenly your horse sucks. This can be described as having a weak heart. Though we don't know much about the heart gene, what we do know is that it boosts a horse's ability in player made competitions, it appears to be recessive, there appears to be a few different styles (no heart; weak heart; average heart; strong heart; exceptional heart...) and it is indeed hereditary. To find heart, you'll need a competition record. From my notes, you have some heart in your herd, but not much, which means that your stock looks good, but they lack a bit in the winning department. For a horse that looks like he or she should be pulling more first or seconds and instead pulls a lot of thirds and below, or a horse that has been pulling a LOT of seconds, but appears to not be able to manage that... or the same horse that's pulling a LOT of seconds but should be pulling a lot MORE firsts... these are all indicators of how the heart gene might exist in the horse. However, I need to note that having heart will only increase the chances. By a lack of heart, it doesn't mean that your horse will lose more competitions, it just means there's nothing there to offer that possibility of a win rather than a second place. At least, so far, this is what the studies we have been able to figure out, have offered.
So to figure out the heart of a horse, you will need a competition record and then weigh that record (WPS and WPS percentage) against what your first consideration of that horse was (this should be a good competitor horse... this horse looks like it might not do much... this horse comes from excellent stock and looks great... etc). The horse's betterment then first consideration or worsening than first consideration will give you insight into the heart.
heart falter, just means that the competition heart of your horse may not be strong enough to overcome the competition. They (the infamous 'They') refer to it as a faltering heart. But it can also mean a horse that get's their competition heart broken by another horse. Specifically in racing, two horses, one with more heart but less talent keeps winning races regularly, comes up against a horse with more talent (regardless of heart). They're smart enough animals sometimes to know when they're beaten. Sometimes, when a horse with strong heart but perhaps less talent, sees a horse that is their better by a wide degree, they loose the desire to race thereafter. Sometimes it's referred to as faltering heart or breaking the heart.
Since we 'may or may not have' the competition heart here on HWO, the use of the faltering heart (and not the broken heart) against stronger competition can be offered as a term describing a horse that just can no longer beat competition that is just too strong to overcome.
Credit goes to BlackOak2
Foal Times in Local Races
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FameDaLupa wrote:So I rather kept a foal, that was running: 2.20/2.19/2.18/2.17 than a foal, that is running 2.25, for example.
2.17 has been the best result I have gotten so far.
However the chances are high that you have a good foal, which means the win % might be over 85%/90%, but I really can't say at all, that the times, newborn foals run in local racing comps (btw. I use the Lvl. 10 comps), are a guarantee that they will run under 2.00min later.
Credit goes to FameDaLupa
Breeders Report
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https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2445520
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2365794
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2470552
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1923083
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2361853
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2444662
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2443656
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2440690
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2478982
Good Strength comment, gold speed comment, and gold stamina comment. The linked horses (the current world record holders in all levels and the most recent previous world record holders in all levels) are examples of good combinations of comments and all have good strength comments, gold speed comments, and gold stamina comments.
Conformation
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2445520
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2365794
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2470552
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1923083
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2361853
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2444662
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2443656
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2440690
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2478982
Strength conformation at least 22. Speed conformation at least 59. Stamina conformation at least 44. The linked horses (the current world record holders in all levels and the most recent previous world record holders in all levels) are examples of good combinations of conformation.
https://www.calculator.net/average-calculator.html
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2445520
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2365794
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2470552
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1923083
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2361853
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2444662
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2443656
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2440690
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2478982
Average (used the current world record holder of each level and the most recent previous world record holder of each level) is 62.44 or 62 for speed. Average for strength is 29.55 or 30 for speed. Average is 44.88 or 45 for stamina.
Temperament
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High strung
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Bitapetrone wrote:I've found that (for my horses at least, there could be variation between lines) it is not as simple as setting your horse's temperament to just "High Strung" or "Bombproof" There is a spectrum within each temperament. For example, my racers do not perform best at capped out high strung. They perform best near-straddling the line between spirited and high strung. Be ready to do some experimentation to find what suits your horses best.
EDITED TO ADD: When I say "my racers" I am referring strictly to the discipline "Racing", not just race-oriented competitions in general.
Credit goes to Bitapetrone
Weight
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Thin to moderately thin
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FameDaLupa wrote:It's pretty obvious to most of us, that a racer has to be moderately thin (I have read sometimes thin will work as well),but I never have considered the actual lbs, of the horses, even while still staying in moderately thin.
I got this tip from someone in the chat, I can't really remember who it was. It might have been "horzelover", but I am not sure. But this was really helpful. I always thought I am on the safe side, if I just keep my horses moderately thin, but within this, there is also a bit of room to play with to really get the best out of your horse!★
So try different weights and observe how the results in local comps might change.
Credit goes to FameDaLupa
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Re: Racehorse Breeding Help
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I have created this both the community and for me to use where all the info you need to have to breed a good racehorse is all right in one place. If you have any suggestions on what I should add, remove, and/or change, feel free to post below. Also if you see anything incorrect, please notify me immediately.
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Re: Racehorse Breeding Help
Post by BlackOak2 »
You might find the following link quite helpful as well.
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And this quote I wrote up on another topic.
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And this quote I wrote up on another topic.
heart falter, just means that the competition heart of your horse may not be strong enough to overcome the competition. They (the infamous 'They') refer to it as a faltering heart. But it can also mean a horse that get's their competition heart broken by another horse. Specifically in racing, two horses, one with more heart but less talent keeps winning races regularly, comes up against a horse with more talent (regardless of heart). They're smart enough animals sometimes to know when they're beaten. Sometimes, when a horse with strong heart but perhaps less talent, sees a horse that is their better by a wide degree, they loose the desire to race thereafter. Sometimes it's referred to as faltering heart or breaking the heart.
Since we 'may or may not have' the competition heart here on HWO, the use of the faltering heart (and not the broken heart) against stronger competition can be offered as a term describing a horse that just can no longer beat competition that is just too strong to overcome.
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