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Re: Offering Genetics "Testing"

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Just wondering if you could figure out the genetics for this mare for me. I did just adopt her but I'm still curious https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4180729
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If you want a crazy one, I'd love help. From the photo guides above, best I can guess is Champagne, however it also looks pearl? I have all foals and most of the pedigree has been bred by me, and I still have them.

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Pure_Breeding wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:30 am Just wondering if you could figure out the genetics for this mare for me. I did just adopt her but I'm still curious https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4180729
Looks Black, probably EE/aa or Ee/aa. May or may not have Sooty, very unlikely for it to be Smoky Black which looks identical to normal Black when adult. AC Arabs don't often have Cream and might actually never have it, not sure.
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EclipticEnd wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:28 am
Pure_Breeding wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:30 am Just wondering if you could figure out the genetics for this mare for me. I did just adopt her but I'm still curious https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4180729
Looks Black, probably EE/aa or Ee/aa. May or may not have Sooty, very unlikely for it to be Smoky Black which looks identical to normal Black when adult. AC Arabs don't often have Cream and might actually never have it, not sure.
Thank you so much! I have a few more, if you wouldn't mind:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4155178
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3956645
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4152663
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Ealesi wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:07 pm If you want a crazy one, I'd love help. From the photo guides above, best I can guess is Champagne, however it also looks pearl? I have all foals and most of the pedigree has been bred by me, and I still have them.

https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4180200
I'd argue that this friend is a Silver Amber Champagne Leopard based on the darkness around the nose and ear tips. The father also looks like a Silver Amber and the mother looks like maybe a Gold.

Ee/AA AAt or Aa/Zn or ZZ/ChCh/LPlp is the most likely genetic sequence that I can come up with. Don't see any Dun or Roan or anything (not counting the Varnish).
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Thanks! I was missing the silver element, I appreciate it!

Mind if i also ask about this little lady? https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4183561
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Pure_Breeding wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:31 am
EclipticEnd wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:28 am

Looks Black, probably EE/aa or Ee/aa. May or may not have Sooty, very unlikely for it to be Smoky Black which looks identical to normal Black when adult. AC Arabs don't often have Cream and might actually never have it, not sure.
Thank you so much! I have a few more, if you wouldn't mind:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4155178
Chestnut Snowcap, may be moreso Fewspot at an older age when varnish covers more of the body. Snowcap is to Fewspot what Blanket is to Leopard, so it's up to you to decide if there's enough coverage to call it Fewspot.

The sire (Pino) has a hidden Flaxen gene so there's a 50/50 on this horse also having one Flaxen gene. If you want to know for sure, breed this one to a visibly Flaxen horse a few times and if any of the foals are visibly Flaxen then this one has a gene.

Also may or may not be Mealy, hard to tell with foals since their foal coat is always Mealy.

ee/??/Fn or nn/tt//LPLP

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Greying Red Roan Blanket. Some people would say this is "Strawberry Roan" and "Red Roan" is roan on Bay, but I use Red Roan for Chestnut Roans. : )

This horse is Greying. The mother carries Grey and has passed it down as she's a Grey (Silver Bay Dun). You can tell by the (currently) subtle goggles around this foal's eyes. Might carry Seal (written as At for my purposes) via the father and Bay (A) via the mother, but I can't say for certain. I'll write them regardless just for your own reference later when breeding this foal.

This foal might also carry Silver from the mother, maybe the Father as well as I can't really tell if that's Varnish lightening his mane and tail or not. Silver is hidden on Chestnuts just like how Flaxen is hidden on everything but Chestnuts. I do not think this foal inherited Dun.

ee/AAt?/Zn or maybe ZZ or nn?/tN/nRn/LPlp

https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4152663

Gold Champagne Leopard I think. What I can see of the mane is the same as the body and the feathers are tinted with the same color rather than something darker. Not Dun I don't think, just the beginning of Varnish popping up which is paling the coloration a bit.

Might be het Tiger Eye. I want to say that without TE genes a Champagne horse's eyes are grey? It's been a while though and I can't remember for certain.

The sire's also a Varnish Gold Champagne and I think the mother's a Varnish Gold Cream. This horse has no foals, and since none of the immediate ancestors show it I'm not sure on what Agouti might be carried here.

ee/??/ChCh/tt/LPlp
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Ealesi wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:37 am Thanks! I was missing the silver element, I appreciate it!

Mind if i also ask about this little lady? https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4183561
Sooty Red Dun I believe. Both parents must be het Extension (Ee) and so this friend only inherited the recessives (e). Dun's from the Sire, looks like FSS Burn might be where you're getting that Sooty from based on that horse's sire. Since both parents are Black we know there's no Agouti.

Sooty has some sub-genes so I'm only going to write one gene down. Could have one, could have two, could be some of the sub-genes making it more intense. I'm not sure but I know this horse has it.

ee/aa/Dn/Sty
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THanks! Sorry for throwing the last one in, Shes been a mystery for a minute!
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Ealesi wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:18 am THanks! Sorry for throwing the last one in, Shes been a mystery for a minute!
All good, happy to help. :)
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