Plume?

[Gaagii]

Okay I'll chime in.

General expression
The 'plume' gene I believe is incomplete as mane is separate to tail, mane/tail is separate to fetlocks. You can get horses with just mane or just mane/tail and no fetlocks.
As I said on the first page of here there appears to be three types of expression - high, normal and low.

This is a fully expressed plume with mane, tail & fetlocks

and with feathers
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Plume versus Lp expression
You gotta keep an eye on your foals - if they don't have fetlocks - as they mature to tell the difference between the two as Lp can make the mane lighten before the body from what I've seen.

This is a plume + Lp horse
baby
1 year
3 years
13 years
You can see when Magic is 1 year old he has typical fallen over (high) plume expression as a foal.

This is another plume + Lp horse.
Here you can see her mane at 1 year is obviously plume while her tail isn't. If she were Lp, from what I've seen, both should be lightened together

2 years & tail has caught up
13 years

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Bay Points vs Silver Fetlocks
Silver fetlocks affects black not red hairs.
If a horse has silver the bay points either entirely lack or are diluted. The silver fetlocks can, like the bay points, extend quite far or remain close to the fetlocks themselves.

This is an example of a silver fetlock + diluted bay points
10 years

This is an example of silver fetlock - bay points
4 years

This is an example of weaker silver fetlock


This is an example of the weakest silver fetlock


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Silver Fetlock Expression
As blackoak2 said the silver overlaps everything on the fetlock.


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As you can see the pangare is cream while the silver fetlock is actually a sort of metallic silver/greyish-white.



Out of all the horses asked the only one I see as obvious plume is the last one (Skunk) stick mentions. I maybe wrong as I've gotten so used to high expression plumes in my own herd I am missing low expression ones.

[AltNazarach]

I recently stumbled about this horse in the studmarket, but was a bit surprised;
he seems to have 'plume', both in mane and tail, but his feetlocks appear to be without any of the silvering - instead it his upper legs are somewhat off color; is this from plume or does metallic also lighten/overlap with plume?
[there are no good photos, so here's just the url]
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/8588

[BlackOak2]

I recently stumbled about this horse in the studmarket, but was a bit surprised;
he seems to have 'plume', both in mane and tail, but his feetlocks appear to be without any of the silvering - instead it his upper legs are somewhat off color; is this from plume or does metallic also lighten/overlap with plume?
[there are no good photos, so here's just the url]
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/8588

Sometimes these buckskins have these weird knees and hocks. Sometimes I think it's related to pangare and other times I think it's not.
In my opinion: plume horse (very early version of it), but the knees and hocks are not from plume, rather just an unusual variation of buckskin.

[AltNazarach]

Sometimes these buckskins have these weird knees and hocks. Sometimes I think it's related to pangare and other times I think it's not.
In my opinion: plume horse (very early version of it), but the knees and hocks are not from plume, rather just an unusual variation of buckskin.

Didn't even notice the number till you mentioned it ^^' but good to know, intersting how such an heavy plume can disappear when the mane 'falls over'

[BlackOak2]

Sometimes these buckskins have these weird knees and hocks. Sometimes I think it's related to pangare and other times I think it's not.
In my opinion: plume horse (very early version of it), but the knees and hocks are not from plume, rather just an unusual variation of buckskin.

Didn't even notice the number till you mentioned it ^^' but good to know, intersting how such an heavy plume can disappear when the mane 'falls over'

Yeah, I find it very interesting as well. I'm sure we're far from being alone in our interest as well.

[AltNazarach]

Yeah, I find it very interesting as well. I'm sure we're far from being alone in our interest as well.

indded, regarding the popularity of the topics whenever there are 'new' developments in Gaagis research :3

[BlackOak2]

Yeah, I find it very interesting as well. I'm sure we're far from being alone in our interest as well.

indded, regarding the popularity of the topics whenever there are 'new' developments in Gaagis research :3

I do enjoy reading them!
Actually, I enjoy reading a lot of what happens in the forum... the good things anyway!

[AltNazarach]

I do enjoy reading them!
Actually, I enjoy reading a lot of what happens in the forum... the good things anyway!

True enough, I'm someone that mostly lurks quietly in the project-topics section ^^'

[BlackOak2]

I do enjoy reading them!
Actually, I enjoy reading a lot of what happens in the forum... the good things anyway!

True enough, I'm someone that mostly lurks quietly in the project-topics section ^^'

Ah-ha!
I noticed.

[Totina]

Not to mess with your discussion and theories about this but I honestly don't think the plume gene is even in the game yet. I have noticed that lightening of the legs, mane and tail in some horses but it only affects wild bays not regular bays. The plume gene would not affect only wild bays if it existed in the game as it doesn't in real life. For a regular bay with lighter mane/tail it is due to the LP varnish and will become more pronounced with age.