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Re: Question about unlocking breeds

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BlackOak2 wrote:Plus, getting a 4* new breed is good information. It could mean that height is slightly less restrictive then we think.
My Sorraia was off by a tiny amount in height, but Shrike (my girlfriend's Mongolian) was off in the Body Size category, I think. He was only off by 0.5 points. It would be interesting to see whether other horses that are listed as being only 0.5 points away tend to go through and be accepted as a new breed with 4*, or tend to be rejected and called a mix. I wonder how the game decides when it's that close.
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Re: Question about unlocking breeds

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redster wrote:
BlackOak2 wrote:Plus, getting a 4* new breed is good information. It could mean that height is slightly less restrictive then we think.
My Sorraia was off by a tiny amount in height, but Shrike (my girlfriend's Mongolian) was off in the Body Size category, I think. He was only off by 0.5 points. It would be interesting to see whether other horses that are listed as being only 0.5 points away tend to go through and be accepted as a new breed with 4*, or tend to be rejected and called a mix. I wonder how the game decides when it's that close.
I wonder that myself. The game may round up, round down. But on something like this, admin may not give us a direct answer.
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Re: Question about unlocking breeds

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BlackOak2 wrote:
redster wrote:
So, in this particular case, if I do get a female Sorraia-fail with this same breed-makeup and that is too small in all the areas that this boy is too big (which often happens for me), there is a halfway decent chance that crossing the two could result in a successful Sorraia?

(And as for the 5 star thing, that's how I'd always understood it to work too... but somehow, on either my account or my girlfriend's account, I swear we got a new Mongolian that only had a 4 star rating. We were flabbergasted, lol.)
I could always be wrong; we could be able to get 4 star new horses, I've just never produced one myself. After all, we can get 4 star out of the AC. If you come across proof of it, let us know. The more we understand, the better off our community becomes. :D

Remember, every foal you produce has genes that make it express who it is, but it doesn't tell you the hidden ones that aren't expressed. A great example is crossing a shetland to a belgian. The resulting foal can be anywhere within the requirements of a shetland all the way to anywhere in the requirements of a belgian, all depending on the genes that either parent actually has. If the resulting foal is all of 21 inches, matching it's shetland parent height, that certainly doesn't mean that any foals this foal produces will be short. In fact, the next generation could be a 21hh horse.
By continuing to breed and keep only the foals that match what you want, however, you will eventually breed out the 'far left' and 'far right' genes by simply them eventually not being passed on. You monopolize the genes you want and diminish the genes you don't. That's why when somebody says they're having a lot of difficulty breeding something, we suggest to breed toward what they want for awhile, even by inbreeding, because by inbreeding, you maximize the chance of passing just the genes you want.

From what I recall, Sorraia's are notorious for being difficult to breed.
Good Luck! with that endeavor.
Just to chime in you can get a 4* for a breed creation...I've had this happen on a few breeds, but here is an ApQH for example. It also seems to run in certain breeds.

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