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Australian Draught Horse
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Each breed may have only one topic. The first post in the topic is to be informative. It should help explain the breed, and breeding goals; advice on how to select mares and stallions; and links to ideal Stallions available for breeding.
Keeping a directory of breeders working on the same goal is also helpful.
All new threads must be approved.
Each breed may have only one topic. The first post in the topic is to be informative. It should help explain the breed, and breeding goals; advice on how to select mares and stallions; and links to ideal Stallions available for breeding.
Keeping a directory of breeders working on the same goal is also helpful.
All new threads must be approved.
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Re: Australian Draught Horse
Thanks!Royale Ranch wrote:np.Walnut Acres wrote: Cheers
Can I buy him straight off here then sell him to BOB!
And btw I offered $5,400 because you were so nice to train him for me and deserved it. I would have given more but i only had $5400 lolz
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Re: Australian Draught Horse
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Last edited by Royale Ranch on Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Australian Draught Horse
breeding program update:
...2C. PERCHERON - Norman Cob x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ]
... ...3Ci. NORMAN COB - [ Tarpan x Belgian ] x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ]
... ... ...4Cia. TARPAN - (ancient breed)
... ... ...4Cib. BELGIAN - (ancient breed)
... ... ...4Cic. FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed)
... ... ...4Cid. BELGIAN - (ancient breed)
... ...3Cii. FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed) (hold)
... ...3Ciii. BELGIAN - (ancient breed) (hold)
soo.... I bred approx. 26 tarpan x belgian / forest horse/belgians before slimming the lines down to 12.
(i was hoping to get approx. equal colts and fillies..but one pair of horses only decided to give me one colt and about 7 fillies...)
3x BelgianxForest horse Mares
3x BelgianxForest Horse Stallions
3x TarpanxBelgian Mares
3x TarpanxBelgian Stallions
now... I have 6 'couples, crossing each (belgianxforest) horse mare with a (tarpanxbelgian) stallion and vice versa.
1:
-(1)- BxFH (M) Sandy -0 +0 31 G *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1613721
-(6)- TxB (S) CMoon -1 +0 32 B *3
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1615269
2:
-(2)- BxFH (M) UN -0 +0 31 B *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1615098
-(5)- TxB (S) LDash -0 +0 33 B *5
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1613506
3:
-(3)- BxFH (M) Sandy -0 +0 35 B? *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1612099
-(4)- TxB (S) LDash -0 +0 32 B *5
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1616532
4:
-(11)- BxFH (S) Sandy -0 +0 33 G *3
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1609005
-(7)- TxB (M) CMoon -0 +0 31 G *5
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1615095
5:
-(10)- BxFH (S) Sandy -0 +0 32 G *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1613898
-(12)- BxFH (S) UN -1 +0 34 B *2
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1616436
6:
-(9)- TxB (M) Ldash -0 +0 32 B *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1615270
-(12)- BxFH (S) UN -1 +0 34 B *2
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1609008
now...lets hope the foals arent failed breedings!
...2C. PERCHERON - Norman Cob x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ]
... ...3Ci. NORMAN COB - [ Tarpan x Belgian ] x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ]
... ... ...4Cia. TARPAN - (ancient breed)
... ... ...4Cib. BELGIAN - (ancient breed)
... ... ...4Cic. FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed)
... ... ...4Cid. BELGIAN - (ancient breed)
... ...3Cii. FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed) (hold)
... ...3Ciii. BELGIAN - (ancient breed) (hold)
soo.... I bred approx. 26 tarpan x belgian / forest horse/belgians before slimming the lines down to 12.
(i was hoping to get approx. equal colts and fillies..but one pair of horses only decided to give me one colt and about 7 fillies...)
3x BelgianxForest horse Mares
3x BelgianxForest Horse Stallions
3x TarpanxBelgian Mares
3x TarpanxBelgian Stallions
now... I have 6 'couples, crossing each (belgianxforest) horse mare with a (tarpanxbelgian) stallion and vice versa.
1:
-(1)- BxFH (M) Sandy -0 +0 31 G *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1613721
-(6)- TxB (S) CMoon -1 +0 32 B *3
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1615269
2:
-(2)- BxFH (M) UN -0 +0 31 B *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1615098
-(5)- TxB (S) LDash -0 +0 33 B *5
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1613506
3:
-(3)- BxFH (M) Sandy -0 +0 35 B? *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1612099
-(4)- TxB (S) LDash -0 +0 32 B *5
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1616532
4:
-(11)- BxFH (S) Sandy -0 +0 33 G *3
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1609005
-(7)- TxB (M) CMoon -0 +0 31 G *5
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1615095
5:
-(10)- BxFH (S) Sandy -0 +0 32 G *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1613898
-(12)- BxFH (S) UN -1 +0 34 B *2
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1616436
6:
-(9)- TxB (M) Ldash -0 +0 32 B *4
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1615270
-(12)- BxFH (S) UN -1 +0 34 B *2
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1609008
now...lets hope the foals arent failed breedings!
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Re: Australian Draught Horse
breeding program update:
...2C. PERCHERON - Norman Cob x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] - next up
... ...3Ci. NORMAN COB - [ Tarpan x Belgian ] x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] - complete
... ...3Cii. FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed) - current
... ...3Ciii. BELGIAN - (ancient breed) - current
NORMAN COB:
so, I've learned the hard way... breeding certainly isnt as easy as it seems on paper
and it doesnt just work pairing up this couple and that couple, no matter how compatible they seem
idk how many half belgians i got instead of Norman Cobs, but i did end up with 11 foals...
Stallions:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1626845
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1626848
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1633025
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1633143
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1633155
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634229
Mares:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1625695
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1629658
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1632973
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1632977
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1633106
yes, some of them have the fatal graying gene, and others have a couple of red stats - but overall, i'm reasonably pleased with the result.. (p.s it kinda is my first successful breeding of a new breed without crossbreeding
)
what next?
right now i'm trying to quickly breed some suitable forest horse x belgian (as always, using foundation breeds from AC only) crosses before the norman cobs age too much...
...2C. PERCHERON - Norman Cob x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] - next up
... ...3Ci. NORMAN COB - [ Tarpan x Belgian ] x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] - complete
... ...3Cii. FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed) - current
... ...3Ciii. BELGIAN - (ancient breed) - current
NORMAN COB:
so, I've learned the hard way... breeding certainly isnt as easy as it seems on paper
and it doesnt just work pairing up this couple and that couple, no matter how compatible they seem
idk how many half belgians i got instead of Norman Cobs, but i did end up with 11 foals...
Stallions:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1626845
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1626848
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1633025
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1633143
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1633155
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634229
Mares:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1625695
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1629658
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1632973
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1632977
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1633106
yes, some of them have the fatal graying gene, and others have a couple of red stats - but overall, i'm reasonably pleased with the result.. (p.s it kinda is my first successful breeding of a new breed without crossbreeding
)what next?
right now i'm trying to quickly breed some suitable forest horse x belgian (as always, using foundation breeds from AC only) crosses before the norman cobs age too much...
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Re: Australian Draught Horse
while this post doesnt directly link to my personal breeding program, it does link to ADH's in genderal
according to Breeds wiki, there are currently 15 ADH's on HWO...so, ive made it a short term quest to find them all:
1.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1033308
2.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1059070
3.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123985
4.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123984
5.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123982
6.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123980
7.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123981
8.
do part/half breeds count?
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1107129
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123983
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123979
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1116172
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1116171
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1109780
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1107130
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1126519
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123979
oh - and does that '15' include deceased horses? coz i got a feeling it doesnt ....
etc... this is all ive found so far..
according to Breeds wiki, there are currently 15 ADH's on HWO...so, ive made it a short term quest to find them all:
1.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1033308
2.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1059070
3.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123985
4.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123984
5.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123982
6.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123980
7.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123981
8.
do part/half breeds count?
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1107129
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123983
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123979
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1116172
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1116171
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1109780
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1107130
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1126519
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1123979
oh - and does that '15' include deceased horses? coz i got a feeling it doesnt ....
etc... this is all ive found so far..
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Re: Australian Draught Horse
breeding program update:
...2C. PERCHERON - Norman Cob x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] - current!
... ...3Ci. NORMAN COB - [ Tarpan x Belgian ] x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] - complete
... ...3Cii. FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed) - complete
... ...3Ciii. BELGIAN - (ancient breed) - complete
so - im up to breeding percherons! - the last sector of division 2c in the ADH breeding program
Norman Cob = as per previous post
Forest x belgian as below: note that none have red stats or graying
stallions:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635376
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634474
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634498
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634511
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634749
Mares:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634512
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634561
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634471
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634495
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634562
watch this space
...2C. PERCHERON - Norman Cob x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] - current!
... ...3Ci. NORMAN COB - [ Tarpan x Belgian ] x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] - complete
... ...3Cii. FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed) - complete
... ...3Ciii. BELGIAN - (ancient breed) - complete
so - im up to breeding percherons! - the last sector of division 2c in the ADH breeding program
Norman Cob = as per previous post
Forest x belgian as below: note that none have red stats or graying
stallions:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635376
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634474
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634498
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634511
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634749
Mares:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634512
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634561
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634471
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634495
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1634562
watch this space
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Re: Australian Draught Horse
Exciting News Everyone! as you may or may not know, the creation of the ADH in its simplest form is as follows:
DRAUGHT - [ Shire x Clydesdale ] x [ Percheron x Suffolk Punch ]
and well, for the first time, i have created 1/4 of that breed - the Percheron!
see below for all my successful Percheron mares and stallions...
Stallions:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635596
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635597
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1638774
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635834
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1638938
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1640443
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1642869
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635974
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1637348
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1637340
Mares:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635590
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1638401
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635588
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1637186
lets hope some of them, at least, will be compatible enough to eventually create the ADH!
next up - what should i start? shire, clydesdale? or suffolk punch?
DRAUGHT - [ Shire x Clydesdale ] x [ Percheron x Suffolk Punch ]
and well, for the first time, i have created 1/4 of that breed - the Percheron!
see below for all my successful Percheron mares and stallions...
Stallions:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635596
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635597
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1638774
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635834
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1638938
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1640443
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1642869
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635974
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1637348
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1637340
Mares:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635590
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1638401
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1635588
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1637186
lets hope some of them, at least, will be compatible enough to eventually create the ADH!
next up - what should i start? shire, clydesdale? or suffolk punch?
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Re: Australian Draught Horse
Dare I call this stage 2?
as in the above post, i now have a number of Percheron's...so i'm going to get started on some shires...
basically, im going to need a minimum of the following:
AC horses:
- 6x Forest horse
- 8x NAB
- 5x Arab
- 9x Tarpan
- 2x prez
- 1x belgian
some of which will be used to create:
- 4x WAB
- 2x Mangolian
- 3x Sorria
- 1x Andulasian
- 1x Freisan
For various reasons, ive decided to start with the WAB division, as such. why? becuase that is the biggest part within the Shire.
However, to do that - im going to create 4 completely separate lines of WAB...
if you follow my coding system, this will = 6Aiiic(one)'d'<>5Aiiic(four).<>6Aiiic(three)'d' and 6Aiiic(two)'a'.
WAB creation below: stay tuned for the hoses im going to use!
- WEST AFRICAN BARB - [Arabian x North African Barb ] x [NorthAfricanBarbxForest Horse]
- - ARABIAN - (ancient breed)
- - NORTH AFRICAN BARB - (ancient breed)
- - NORTH AFRICAN BARB - (ancient breed)
- - FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed)
as in the above post, i now have a number of Percheron's...so i'm going to get started on some shires...
basically, im going to need a minimum of the following:
AC horses:
- 6x Forest horse
- 8x NAB
- 5x Arab
- 9x Tarpan
- 2x prez
- 1x belgian
some of which will be used to create:
- 4x WAB
- 2x Mangolian
- 3x Sorria
- 1x Andulasian
- 1x Freisan
For various reasons, ive decided to start with the WAB division, as such. why? becuase that is the biggest part within the Shire.
However, to do that - im going to create 4 completely separate lines of WAB...
if you follow my coding system, this will = 6Aiiic(one)'d'<>5Aiiic(four).<>6Aiiic(three)'d' and 6Aiiic(two)'a'.
WAB creation below: stay tuned for the hoses im going to use!
- WEST AFRICAN BARB - [Arabian x North African Barb ] x [NorthAfricanBarbxForest Horse]
- - ARABIAN - (ancient breed)
- - NORTH AFRICAN BARB - (ancient breed)
- - NORTH AFRICAN BARB - (ancient breed)
- - FOREST HORSE - (ancient breed)
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Re: Australian Draught Horse
Hello All.... It's been a long time, but i'm back
A quick note, and please don't hate me for posting on this topic...
I'm handing this breeding project over...
All horses are for sale, and anyone is willing to take over the research/info above. I may continue to work on the Australian Draught Horse Breed, but it will not be via this forum..
Please contact me via the below forum, which also links to the sale horses:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... 63#p109863
A quick note, and please don't hate me for posting on this topic...
I'm handing this breeding project over...
All horses are for sale, and anyone is willing to take over the research/info above. I may continue to work on the Australian Draught Horse Breed, but it will not be via this forum..
Please contact me via the below forum, which also links to the sale horses:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... 63#p109863
