How much to sell horses for?

[Winterberry Hollow]

Hi I've got a few horses I would like to sell, but I don't know how much they are worth.
Treasure Bar https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3372966
Sly Huntress https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3597936
Snowy Neverland https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3554450
Don't Go Breaking My Heart https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3550007
Artzai Wing https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3650496

I tried posting them for sale on the market for offers only, but nobody offered anything. Just wondering if I can get some opinions. That being said, if anyone is interested in one of my horses, let me know

Also wondering if there is some sort of guide on how to price horses? I couldn't find one.

Finally, if I posted this on the wrong board I'm sorry. I tried asking about how to price Sly Huntress on the horses for sale board and have had no responses.

[BlackOak2]

Hi I've got a few horses I would like to sell, but I don't know how much they are worth.
Treasure Bar https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3372966
Sly Huntress https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3597936
Snowy Neverland https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3554450
Don't Go Breaking My Heart https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3550007
Artzai Wing https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3650496

I tried posting them for sale on the market for offers only, but nobody offered anything. Just wondering if I can get some opinions. That being said, if anyone is interested in one of my horses, let me know

Also wondering if there is some sort of guide on how to price horses? I couldn't find one.

Finally, if I posted this on the wrong board I'm sorry. I tried asking about how to price Sly Huntress on the horses for sale board and have had no responses.

Deary-dear... On behalf of the community, I'm sorry you didn't get any responses. If in the future, you don't get any responses, please feel free to ping me directly and I'll do what I need to, to get you at least some sort of answer.

So, here they are.
You already have a handle on the basic way to see what a horse might be priced at. But, as it sometimes does, you didn't get any takers to get a thought on that.
Yeah, we don't have too many guides on sales, but here's at least one from a member's point-of-view. Of course, taken with a grain of salt. My Opinion On Prices
Pretty much the only one we have.
But we do have my guide, to give you some more thoughts on what you should be looking for, to help with pricing (likely you already read it through). Creating Sale & Stud Ads Help

Now onto the front question. The pricing of the horses themselves.
First, any horse that passes minimum on-paper for grinder basic, can be sold as a grinder prospect, untrained for around 10k. Confirmed grinder lines, you can sell a grinder prospect (untrained) for 25k and upward. Trained grinder horses can start at (for quick-sale) 50k. I've put quick-sale, trained grinders for up to 80k and they're usually gone in 24 hours or less. They can go for more, the more confirmed and well-known the grinder bloodline is, the more money they can be snatched up for.

Horses that fall under minimum requirements for grinders, usually fall into two distinct categories, Project Sales and Competition/Breeding Sales.
Project Sale horses are generally any horse that another player needs for a project, most, of which, are recipe horses. There are also those specifically for color projects. These horses' interest comes and goes. So pricing them is difficult, at best.
Competition/Breeding Sale horses are generally more regular. Any horse that comes from a competition line (regardless of WPS ability or heart ability) can be generally set at certain pricing and sales will come in semi-regularly. Pricing goes up the more WPS and heart that the line satisfies.

So, let's see what you have.
Treasure Bar meets minimum Grinder requirements. Is not usable as a recipe horse... Comes from a competition line, but is a couple generations removed from it. Has decently good color and might be of interest for a snowflakes breeder. My suggestion is train him up and offer him as primarily a grinder with color-breeder interest. Trained, price him between 50k & 70k. Make sure he's trained by no more than 8 years, to ensure maximum profits.

Sly Huntress Excellent grinder-prospect. Rates poor for East Bulgarian, so not much help there. Again, comes from competition line, but slightly removed. Has a fairly good driven dressage stallion in her pedigree. If you say she's descended from him (great-grand), could increase asking price for that. I'd suggest touting her pedigree and listing the last few generations of competition horses, including WPS over 75% in those disciplines and where they fall in her pedigree. I'd also suggest putting her as a buyout AND with offers. Put her buyout at 150k and accept any offer over 80k. She has good, solid on-paper for grinder, but there might be somebody interested in her as a breeder for competition. No need to train her, in my opinion, she would likely have more value as a breeder, for somebody interested for competition or even East Bulgarian lines with some proven blood already mixed in.

Snowy Neverland Not useful for any recipe. Although, might be a niche market for arab x fala breeders. Not particularly great for grinder-prospect (not enough color on the BR), but a possible candidate nonetheless. COI is incredibly high. So somebody that's looking for just her look, might be interested in her purchase. You could exploit that for interested buyers, something like 'has high COI, so body form should pass on strongly.' She's not so great otherwise. I'd say, if you want to get rid of her, place her for 10k, or train her up and place her as a grinder quick-sale for 40k. Even one like her, if she's already trained, can go for a quick-sale for grinder status at 40k.

Don't Go Breaking My Heart Such a nice silver bay. Somebody might be looking for that. Grinder status is... okay. Doesn't appear to have any recipe links. Another that comes down from a competition line. I'd specifically say that she's descended from [F#] Raise The Bar. That might get more interest for her. And she's crossed into [F#] Rammus. Even though this is a Remix cross, it might garner more interest that you have her from that cross. Her dam's line is weak though. I wouldn't expect much from her, unless the buyer has interest for her color or as a grinder. Unsure whether to take the time to train her, but since she has probably a better interest as a grinder, then that's what I'd suggest. Train her and put her up as a grinder but mention those crosses and see if she'll go for more. 80k with an OBO and accept anything 35k and over. Give or take.

Artzai Wing This one would be a front-running grinder prospect. We really can't go wrong, training and using arabians as grinders. Should pull at least 30k untrained as a grinder, but could maximize profit by training this little filly up. Good, basic color, but arabians are everywhere and so are color combinations. Unlikely a color-breeder will have interest for that area. Comes down from competition lines, but many of our arabians do. Arabians have many uses in many recipes, but they're super light body frame is a problem for many, especially because they tend to favor throwing super lights. What I'm saying is, she's not an exception to that. And, she's going to be tall. I'd suggest training her up and quick-selling her as a grinder. Although, you could theoretically put a 150k buyout on her and she may even go in a 24 hr turnaround. Let's face it, arabians make great grinders and many of us are used to them.

I think that's all of them.
I hope that helps! Any questions, just ask away and I'll get back.

[Horsechronicles12]

Hi I've got a few horses I would like to sell, but I don't know how much they are worth.
Treasure Bar https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3372966
Sly Huntress https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3597936
Snowy Neverland https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3554450
Don't Go Breaking My Heart https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3550007
Artzai Wing https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3650496

I tried posting them for sale on the market for offers only, but nobody offered anything. Just wondering if I can get some opinions. That being said, if anyone is interested in one of my horses, let me know

Also wondering if there is some sort of guide on how to price horses? I couldn't find one.

Finally, if I posted this on the wrong board I'm sorry. I tried asking about how to price Sly Huntress on the horses for sale board and have had no responses.

$1500. That's what I usually put close to anyway. Sometimes higher or lower

[Winterberry Hollow]

Hi I've got a few horses I would like to sell, but I don't know how much they are worth.
Treasure Bar https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3372966
Sly Huntress https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3597936
Snowy Neverland https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3554450
Don't Go Breaking My Heart https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3550007
Artzai Wing https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3650496

I tried posting them for sale on the market for offers only, but nobody offered anything. Just wondering if I can get some opinions. That being said, if anyone is interested in one of my horses, let me know

Also wondering if there is some sort of guide on how to price horses? I couldn't find one.

Finally, if I posted this on the wrong board I'm sorry. I tried asking about how to price Sly Huntress on the horses for sale board and have had no responses.

Deary-dear... On behalf of the community, I'm sorry you didn't get any responses. If in the future, you don't get any responses, please feel free to ping me directly and I'll do what I need to, to get you at least some sort of answer.

So, here they are.
You already have a handle on the basic way to see what a horse might be priced at. But, as it sometimes does, you didn't get any takers to get a thought on that.
Yeah, we don't have too many guides on sales, but here's at least one from a member's point-of-view. Of course, taken with a grain of salt. My Opinion On Prices
Pretty much the only one we have.
But we do have my guide, to give you some more thoughts on what you should be looking for, to help with pricing (likely you already read it through). Creating Sale & Stud Ads Help

Now onto the front question. The pricing of the horses themselves.
First, any horse that passes minimum on-paper for grinder basic, can be sold as a grinder prospect, untrained for around 10k. Confirmed grinder lines, you can sell a grinder prospect (untrained) for 25k and upward. Trained grinder horses can start at (for quick-sale) 50k. I've put quick-sale, trained grinders for up to 80k and they're usually gone in 24 hours or less. They can go for more, the more confirmed and well-known the grinder bloodline is, the more money they can be snatched up for.

Horses that fall under minimum requirements for grinders, usually fall into two distinct categories, Project Sales and Competition/Breeding Sales.
Project Sale horses are generally any horse that another player needs for a project, most, of which, are recipe horses. There are also those specifically for color projects. These horses' interest comes and goes. So pricing them is difficult, at best.
Competition/Breeding Sale horses are generally more regular. Any horse that comes from a competition line (regardless of WPS ability or heart ability) can be generally set at certain pricing and sales will come in semi-regularly. Pricing goes up the more WPS and heart that the line satisfies.

So, let's see what you have.
Treasure Bar meets minimum Grinder requirements. Is not usable as a recipe horse... Comes from a competition line, but is a couple generations removed from it. Has decently good color and might be of interest for a snowflakes breeder. My suggestion is train him up and offer him as primarily a grinder with color-breeder interest. Trained, price him between 50k & 70k. Make sure he's trained by no more than 8 years, to ensure maximum profits.

Sly Huntress Excellent grinder-prospect. Rates poor for East Bulgarian, so not much help there. Again, comes from competition line, but slightly removed. Has a fairly good driven dressage stallion in her pedigree. If you say she's descended from him (great-grand), could increase asking price for that. I'd suggest touting her pedigree and listing the last few generations of competition horses, including WPS over 75% in those disciplines and where they fall in her pedigree. I'd also suggest putting her as a buyout AND with offers. Put her buyout at 150k and accept any offer over 80k. She has good, solid on-paper for grinder, but there might be somebody interested in her as a breeder for competition. No need to train her, in my opinion, she would likely have more value as a breeder, for somebody interested for competition or even East Bulgarian lines with some proven blood already mixed in.

Snowy Neverland Not useful for any recipe. Although, might be a niche market for arab x fala breeders. Not particularly great for grinder-prospect (not enough color on the BR), but a possible candidate nonetheless. COI is incredibly high. So somebody that's looking for just her look, might be interested in her purchase. You could exploit that for interested buyers, something like 'has high COI, so body form should pass on strongly.' She's not so great otherwise. I'd say, if you want to get rid of her, place her for 10k, or train her up and place her as a grinder quick-sale for 40k. Even one like her, if she's already trained, can go for a quick-sale for grinder status at 40k.

Don't Go Breaking My Heart Such a nice silver bay. Somebody might be looking for that. Grinder status is... okay. Doesn't appear to have any recipe links. Another that comes down from a competition line. I'd specifically say that she's descended from [F#] Raise The Bar. That might get more interest for her. And she's crossed into [F#] Rammus. Even though this is a Remix cross, it might garner more interest that you have her from that cross. Her dam's line is weak though. I wouldn't expect much from her, unless the buyer has interest for her color or as a grinder. Unsure whether to take the time to train her, but since she has probably a better interest as a grinder, then that's what I'd suggest. Train her and put her up as a grinder but mention those crosses and see if she'll go for more. 80k with an OBO and accept anything 35k and over. Give or take.

Artzai Wing This one would be a front-running grinder prospect. We really can't go wrong, training and using arabians as grinders. Should pull at least 30k untrained as a grinder, but could maximize profit by training this little filly up. Good, basic color, but arabians are everywhere and so are color combinations. Unlikely a color-breeder will have interest for that area. Comes down from competition lines, but many of our arabians do. Arabians have many uses in many recipes, but they're super light body frame is a problem for many, especially because they tend to favor throwing super lights. What I'm saying is, she's not an exception to that. And, she's going to be tall. I'd suggest training her up and quick-selling her as a grinder. Although, you could theoretically put a 150k buyout on her and she may even go in a 24 hr turnaround. Let's face it, arabians make great grinders and many of us are used to them.

I think that's all of them.
I hope that helps! Any questions, just ask away and I'll get back.

Thanks so much! This is really helpful! I had no idea about what to look for when looking breedin and sell horses and which are worth training so your insight has helped a ton! I'm thinking I might sell most of mine and start almost from scratch to get better lines.

[Winterberry Hollow]

Hi I've got a few horses I would like to sell, but I don't know how much they are worth.
Treasure Bar https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3372966
Sly Huntress https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3597936
Snowy Neverland https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3554450
Don't Go Breaking My Heart https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3550007
Artzai Wing https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3650496

I tried posting them for sale on the market for offers only, but nobody offered anything. Just wondering if I can get some opinions. That being said, if anyone is interested in one of my horses, let me know

Also wondering if there is some sort of guide on how to price horses? I couldn't find one.

Finally, if I posted this on the wrong board I'm sorry. I tried asking about how to price Sly Huntress on the horses for sale board and have had no responses.

$1500. That's what I usually put close to anyway. Sometimes higher or lower

Thanks! Yeah that's what I always do too, but I wanted to make sure its reasonable!

[BlackOak2]

Thanks so much! This is really helpful! I had no idea about what to look for when looking breedin and sell horses and which are worth training so your insight has helped a ton! I'm thinking I might sell most of mine and start almost from scratch to get better lines.

There are many ways to tackle it.

If you're expecting to sell out and start from scratch... and you're thinking about padding your bank account with it. I might suggest taking a short stretch into high-quality grinder area for a couple months. And then delving into whatever main project you want to head into.

If you pick up a pair of higher-quality grinder-prospect stock (say a single mare and a single stallion) and then breed them, train their foals, one-at-a-time, you could sell them for quick sales and really pad your account quick. Doing them one at a time, and not using a boarding account, you'll likely get between 5 and 7 foals out of them, but if you sell each of them, trained, for 80k quick-sale, that'll net you at least 400k and at most 560k. More if they prove great, or you raise the price (all dependent on their grinder-success). And I would expect you to get through the lives of the parents in a month. You know, slow turn churning.

Especially if you haven't yet tried training.

Anyway, if you need anything more, you know what to do.

If you want to do that and you need help locating or acquiring a pair of grinder-prospect breeding stock, let me know, I'll see what I can come up with and what I can find.

[Winterberry Hollow]

Thank you so much again!!! If you know of any grinders available right now that would be great, I only have 60k in my bank right now so I don't think I can afford one yet, but if you know of one that will be good for me to know how much I will need to save! I think I am going to start a line of endurance arabians for sure because I have a couple fillys that I think I will keep, but I'm also intrestead in starting a second line of a different breed. I thought that specializing in a certian discipline would be good to keep stuff organized and breed horses that will be great at doing that thing but I don't know. I am using this guide to train my horses: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=25066&p=188261&hil ... in#p188261, and it seems to be going well, but considering I have never trained a horse before I am not sure
Anyways, thanks again for all your help it means so much!

[BlackOak2]

Thank you so much again!!! If you know of any grinders available right now that would be great, I only have 60k in my bank right now so I don't think I can afford one yet, but if you know of one that will be good for me to know how much I will need to save! I think I am going to start a line of endurance arabians for sure because I have a couple fillys that I think I will keep, but I'm also intrestead in starting a second line of a different breed. I thought that specializing in a certian discipline would be good to keep stuff organized and breed horses that will be great at doing that thing but I don't know. I am using this guide to train my horses: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=25066&p=188261&hil ... in#p188261, and it seems to be going well, but considering I have never trained a horse before I am not sure
Anyways, thanks again for all your help it means so much!

Sawd10's guide will keep you right.

Great thing about going for endurance, is you don't need to worry about temperament. They're bombproof, so you can keep them on pasture and not have to worry about breeding for something that's not bombproof.

Arabian's are easy to get your hands on, so it's a safe bet.

Sticking to a specific discipline allows you to focus on just that, so the other areas can go to crap and it won't matter. Even red comments in a stat that's not a part of the discipline really won't negatively effect the horse's performance at all. And choosing a discipline also allows you to hone in much earlier on.

Super lights, bombproof and arabian-style looks so you're pretty much already good to go.

Now as for a grinder...
You didn't specify a grinder-breeder, just a grinder.

But let's see what there is to see. Also keep in mind that the community can offer you grinders for cheaper, all you need to do is ask.

Colts
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3802500 -this one would make a good grinder, but probably not good breeding stock
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3638937 -this one would work for both, but is pricey. May even have some heart genes going on, but that's uncertain until he's really tested thoroughly.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3714940 -this one could work for you for either. It's a cross, but overall he's a good looking one.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3554201 -this one could work for both as well and is almost wholly purebred.
... Okay, there are a LOT of mixed arabs... I'm switching to just the pure's and to just the immediate buy style.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3692980 - this one is probably somebody's hard work to develop a line. This is what a grinder-style generally looks like, a lot of BR color, a mix of comments (colored and non-colored ranging from kind of stronger to positive style). He'll probably and successfully throw foals just in his range. But as far as building a competition line from him, it'll likely be another uphill battle to breed in some heart.
Actually, as I go through these arabs, there are a lot of colts that could do you well.

Fillies
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3868224 -this one would be a good-for-either one. COI's under some sort of control and her sire shows some sort of heart in endurance. The sire is a Remix stallion. So you should be a little familiar with the line now.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1272002 -this one might prove useful too. Like that one above where it's a hard work line that'll produce more of the same, but may prove challenging to develop into a competition line.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3706861 - this one should do well for either as well.

But... as for fully trained, ready-now grinder... with no breed selection... let's see...

Just So Painful! to go through the sales market... -_- We really do at least need one additional search function.

There are a number of 50k grinders... you might be able to get something like this for a bit less:

https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3717897 - some of us look out for certain accounts that don't have any (or many) fully trained horses and will let them go to those accounts for less. If you could do 35k, they might send this horse onto you.

This one's a flat buyout.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3927230 - 50k

And QOA has some grinders for limited prices: https://www.horseworldonline.net/market ... l&start=10


But do watch, there are fully trained low on-paper's around: https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3822932
They're worth their monies, but are generally collectors horses. They won't earn you much for grinding. Well, that's a lie, they will earn you bread&butter but... it'll be less overall monies because you'll need to use a level 8 or even a level 6 in locals.

If you can't find one you can comfortably afford, let me know, I'll grab a cheapie from the market (under 5k) and train it up for you. I was going to just offer you mine, but my current one is 18 years.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3915607
So he's just about to age out.

I usually bookmark a good grinder supplier, there are a number of them. But if you don't have the funds to purchase one first off, then it won't help you too much to get moving to begin with. Now, I'm just snatching a cheapie from the market and training it myself. Why? Because they do make good grinder-fodder and otherwise they'd not sell anyway, because there's plenty around.

One of the tips I use, when I'm searching for something that's been trained, is look at the pictures as you just scroll through the market (sometimes it helps to start from the last page and do a search for immediate sales, so put in $1 and the max, say $60000). When you come across a picture that looks like a trained, shiny horse, that'll be one to investigate. Still takes time, and you'll likely be missing some, but the majority of sales are all untrained. So saving yourself some time, does help a little.

[Winterberry Hollow]

Thank you so much again!!! If you know of any grinders available right now that would be great, I only have 60k in my bank right now so I don't think I can afford one yet, but if you know of one that will be good for me to know how much I will need to save! I think I am going to start a line of endurance arabians for sure because I have a couple fillys that I think I will keep, but I'm also intrestead in starting a second line of a different breed. I thought that specializing in a certian discipline would be good to keep stuff organized and breed horses that will be great at doing that thing but I don't know. I am using this guide to train my horses: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=25066&p=188261&hil ... in#p188261, and it seems to be going well, but considering I have never trained a horse before I am not sure
Anyways, thanks again for all your help it means so much!

Sawd10's guide will keep you right.

Great thing about going for endurance, is you don't need to worry about temperament. They're bombproof, so you can keep them on pasture and not have to worry about breeding for something that's not bombproof.

Arabian's are easy to get your hands on, so it's a safe bet.

Sticking to a specific discipline allows you to focus on just that, so the other areas can go to crap and it won't matter. Even red comments in a stat that's not a part of the discipline really won't negatively effect the horse's performance at all. And choosing a discipline also allows you to hone in much earlier on.

Super lights, bombproof and arabian-style looks so you're pretty much already good to go.

Now as for a grinder...
You didn't specify a grinder-breeder, just a grinder.

But let's see what there is to see. Also keep in mind that the community can offer you grinders for cheaper, all you need to do is ask.

Colts
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3802500 -this one would make a good grinder, but probably not good breeding stock
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3638937 -this one would work for both, but is pricey. May even have some heart genes going on, but that's uncertain until he's really tested thoroughly.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3714940 -this one could work for you for either. It's a cross, but overall he's a good looking one.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3554201 -this one could work for both as well and is almost wholly purebred.
... Okay, there are a LOT of mixed arabs... I'm switching to just the pure's and to just the immediate buy style.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3692980 - this one is probably somebody's hard work to develop a line. This is what a grinder-style generally looks like, a lot of BR color, a mix of comments (colored and non-colored ranging from kind of stronger to positive style). He'll probably and successfully throw foals just in his range. But as far as building a competition line from him, it'll likely be another uphill battle to breed in some heart.
Actually, as I go through these arabs, there are a lot of colts that could do you well.

Fillies
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3868224 -this one would be a good-for-either one. COI's under some sort of control and her sire shows some sort of heart in endurance. The sire is a Remix stallion. So you should be a little familiar with the line now.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1272002 -this one might prove useful too. Like that one above where it's a hard work line that'll produce more of the same, but may prove challenging to develop into a competition line.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3706861 - this one should do well for either as well.

But... as for fully trained, ready-now grinder... with no breed selection... let's see...

Just So Painful! to go through the sales market... -_- We really do at least need one additional search function.

There are a number of 50k grinders... you might be able to get something like this for a bit less:

https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3717897 - some of us look out for certain accounts that don't have any (or many) fully trained horses and will let them go to those accounts for less. If you could do 35k, they might send this horse onto you.

This one's a flat buyout.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3927230 - 50k

And QOA has some grinders for limited prices: https://www.horseworldonline.net/market ... l&start=10


But do watch, there are fully trained low on-paper's around: https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3822932
They're worth their monies, but are generally collectors horses. They won't earn you much for grinding. Well, that's a lie, they will earn you bread&butter but... it'll be less overall monies because you'll need to use a level 8 or even a level 6 in locals.

If you can't find one you can comfortably afford, let me know, I'll grab a cheapie from the market (under 5k) and train it up for you. I was going to just offer you mine, but my current one is 18 years.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3915607
So he's just about to age out.

I usually bookmark a good grinder supplier, there are a number of them. But if you don't have the funds to purchase one first off, then it won't help you too much to get moving to begin with. Now, I'm just snatching a cheapie from the market and training it myself. Why? Because they do make good grinder-fodder and otherwise they'd not sell anyway, because there's plenty around.

One of the tips I use, when I'm searching for something that's been trained, is look at the pictures as you just scroll through the market (sometimes it helps to start from the last page and do a search for immediate sales, so put in $1 and the max, say $60000). When you come across a picture that looks like a trained, shiny horse, that'll be one to investigate. Still takes time, and you'll likely be missing some, but the majority of sales are all untrained. So saving yourself some time, does help a little.

Just found one I bought for 20k... https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3927231 I think thats a good price but idk. I'm in the process of changing his tempermant and weight right now. I chose him because he's nearly fully trained and is pretty good on paper. I might breed him later on if I find the right mare too

[BlackOak2]

Just found one I bought for 20k... https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3927231 I think thats a good price but idk. I'm in the process of changing his tempermant and weight right now. I chose him because he's nearly fully trained and is pretty good on paper. I might breed him later on if I find the right mare too

Congrats! There are gems like this all over, just gotta find them.

He does look more like a breeder than a grinder-stock, but he appears to be a great purchase (and that's a plus, above grinder, and not a average - just at grinder. Breeder stock are better than grinder stock). Very nice! Unknown about heart, but that'll only be for competition lines and can be dealt with at a later time.

He'll do well for your purchases.